mmooss 10 hours ago

That is the definition of exploitation: The incarcerated firefighters have no better option, so they are compelled to take wages and conditions that nobody else would consider taking (evidence: the governemnt can't find people to freely take those wages and conditions).

There's no reason these people shouldn't be paid as much as others doing the same work. Californians complain about the fire response (with some propaganda thrown in, as is the case for everything these days), but are so cheap, so unwilling to pay, they they have to take people out of prisons and exploit them - for firefighting! This isn't cleaning highways; the consequences are overwhelming.

If Calinfornians won't pay for it, it's really their own problem.

JSTrading 8 hours ago

Anyone who reads this I suggest watching Fire Country. It’s literally about this. Its a great show.

Jimmc414 10 hours ago

"The firefighters earn $5.80-$10.24 per day plus $1 an hour when responding to active emergencies"

"The CDCR crews have at times accounted for as much as 30% of the wildfire force in the state."

  • SoftTalker 10 hours ago

    I'd rather do that than sit in a cell.

    • mmooss 10 hours ago

      That's the definition of exploitation.

      • SoftTalker 8 hours ago

        Or you could call it repaying a debt to society.

      • JSTrading 8 hours ago

        It’s not though. They are doing it voluntarily.

        • mmooss 3 hours ago

          'Exploitation' doesn't mean people are physically or legally compelled. It means you offer vulnerable people a bad but 'voluntary' option, exploiting their vulnerability to not offer them a legitimate option.

          In this case, the state saves money because of the incarcerated people's vulnerability. That vulnerability is the only reason the state gets to pay those very low wages.